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Post by AGree on Mar 31, 2009 13:22:56 GMT
If either company is breaking the law, then surely your 'union' should be all over this??? Or do you pay your membership fees just to receive a poorly produced magazine every few weeks? Totally agree. This is not toytown stuff. Staff need to get the top legal eagles in Unite involved in this ASAP. Go straight over the heads of the local muppets. And if Unite won't act, then there needs to be a mechanism put in place PDQ collectively to get some SERIOUS company law advice. Don't be afraid of going public with this. your days are numbered at TCS anyway and there is nothing whatsoever by keeping your head down and hoping that redundancy will pass you by. Because sadly it won't. The TCS agenda says you are an overhead rather than an asset. Just dissociate yourself mentally from that wretched organisation and start looking COLLECTIVELY at not being screwed. Tho it might not seem like it, and it might seem a bit scarey to kick up a bit of a fuss, please do it, you owe it to yourselves and your families. The law IS on your side.
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Post by skipper on May 1, 2009 13:52:15 GMT
TCS is just laughing at UK employment laws in general and the TUPE laws in particular. I accept that companies move jobs and make people redundant for so called ETO reasons, but TUPE laws state, quite categorically, that the Transferee company cannot do so following a Transfer of Undertaking, if the Transferor had not intended to do so prior to that transfer, as that would quite obviously mean that the decision to do so was purely as a result of the transfer, ie if the transfer had not taken place then the redundancies would not have occurred, unless you are willing to accept that L&G had a Global Business Model that entailed shipping jobs off to India. I really think that the L&G employees(and the toothless UNITE) have all been conned into believing TCS have acted within UK employment laws and we just have to accept it all, when TCS and other companies like them have never been challenged in the courts. In my opinion they are calling our bluff. In the current climate, some of the old L&G IT staff would no doubt have been shown the door, because that's the limit of the thinking of the so called decision makers, who can't see further than the next share dividend, but the fact of the matter is, the very notion of restructuring a transferred workforce to fit the business model of a transferee company (and making 60+ percent redundant in the process) flies in the very face of what the TUPE laws were setup to prevent. If that is not bad enough TCS planned all along to bring Indian employees to the UK to replace those UK employees they intended to sack and are currently in the process of doing just that.This is quite obviously a flagrant abuse of UK employment law and TCS (and L&G) should be brought to task over the matter in a court of law.
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Post by skipper on May 1, 2009 13:59:58 GMT
Well I couldn't agree more. The Government cares little for safeguarding jobs in this country in fact their legislation has handed 350 jobs to India. There are holes big enough to drive a bus through and TCS know how to exploit everyone of them. let's face, The L&G didn't care about the staff they transferred and TCS couldn't wait to get rid of as many as possible. Give it 6 months and there will be more out of the door. All with the blessing of UNITE and the Labour Government. I'm glad i'm out of it all it's rather nice watching the TV doing the garden and putting my feet up. I can't wait for the L&G to say goodbye to TCS and bring their IT back inhouse. Cause lets face it TCS can't service a rabbit hutch let alone a company worth Billions. Their KT goes in one ear and out of the other and no manner of detailed documentation will assist them. If they can survive on the KT I did then they really are a top IT company, I doubt it however. I can't wait for the first lot of sh1t to hit th fan.....
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Post by offshore on May 2, 2009 16:59:44 GMT
just seen a copy of email from PMO Offshore Team about month end time recording - was a little confused, which shore does it refer too. Are the L&G associates in the UK offshore or onshore.
Also, the distribution list was most impressive, both the number of names and the number of letters in each name. Feel very small and insignificant now.
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Post by ddddyyyy on Jul 8, 2009 1:24:42 GMT
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Post by skipper on Jul 9, 2009 9:48:15 GMT
I think ddddyyyy has lost the plot. Unless of course they are advocating ath we spend our hard earned redundancy on fake handbags.
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Post by ddddyyyy on Aug 27, 2009 7:26:37 GMT
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Post by Observer Corps on Aug 28, 2009 16:51:40 GMT
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Post by jubbly on Oct 28, 2009 21:52:08 GMT
well if you don't like it and you're good at your job, then get out and find a better one. Presumably you're not that good and feel that life just owes you a job and a big fat bonus for just doing your job. Try working for a living, be self employed and see what it's like in the real world :-)
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Post by ratcatcher on Oct 29, 2009 23:24:34 GMT
well if you don't like it and you're good at your job, then get out and find a better one. Presumably you're not that good and feel that life just owes you a job and a big fat bonus for just doing your job. Try working for a living, be self employed and see what it's like in the real world :-) A typically imbicilic post from jubbly; sounds like one of the contractors TCS hires to make the UK workforce jobless - a right kn0b! I do have sympathy to the remaining ex-Landg folks.... i mean jubbly talks about "your job" - but what is that? do people know? since jubbly is giving advice, here's some in return: go crawl back under your real world rock. ;D
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Post by GrumpyBunny on Apr 21, 2010 5:40:17 GMT
Have I misunderstood the recent news item on Ultimatix, or are those on Indian payroll really getting an average annual increment 4 times greater than other regions?
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Post by April Fule on Apr 1, 2011 16:10:09 GMT
Couldnt resist being the first to whinge this year. We should have known this already. The TCS talent management system pretends to measure quality but really measures quantity. So As for all those managers who spend every day in meetings and then send eachother emails until 2am.
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Post by Fool2 on Apr 2, 2011 8:36:49 GMT
I havent seen even the pretence of measuring quality for a long time
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Post by reward for toads on Apr 6, 2011 13:21:12 GMT
reward only for top flight i heard.
keep ripping off l&g and you'll get a hefty pay increase.
l&g directors might even reward you personally.
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